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#6724 Rear doors not sealing

Posted by Sleeper6 on 09 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

Ok have a MKS an had a little snow outside. After a 10 mile ride I opened the read door an there was road grime coming inside. Am I missing some seals by the door ???



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#9635 Power rear sunshade

Posted by DaveH923 on 11 May 2015 - 01:22 PM

Am I late to the party?  I just checked the forum out and saw this post, figured I'd give you my 2 cents on the subject.  I did a bit of research into this last month as it was the only option not put on my 09 and what I found was A LOT of work.  It would require removal of the rear decklid and headliner, you get into complications with the sunroof as well.  I used a version of ALLDATA to gather what I could as far as deconstructing a sunshade. 


The short of it:  If you want one, trade in for one already installed.  :(

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#9578 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost Owners

Posted by brucelinc on 05 May 2015 - 09:08 PM

I agree. I guess a simple answer is not in there vocabulary .

I am not sure whether to ignore this thread or actually try to take it seriously....  I am honestly not sure if some of the "questions" are an honest search for answers or just comments to obtain a reaction.   I will take a stab at actually providing some information:


NO, you cannot "disable" the ecoboost system.   In general, the 3.5 ecoboost engine uses direct injection, twin turbochargers, an intercooler and various sensors, devices, and a powertrain control module to make it all work.  It is a very high tech engine and a concept that the entire industry is either already using or moving to very quickly.  You see it on everything from Cadillacs to BMWs.


Direct injection is more efficient that port injection and allows a more exact amount of fuel to the cylinders.  It allows for a higher compression ratio that creates better efficiency, too.  A very high pressure fuel pump is used and it, along with the fuel injectors create a bit more noise than the old-fashioned port injection.  Some describe the sound as a bit like a diesel engine.  The twin turbos are run by exhaust gases and create pressure to force more air into the engine when power is demanded.  In effect, they can make a 3.5 liter engine develop power like a 5 liter engine.  High pressure from turbos mean heat so an intercooler is used to cool the air before it is forced into the cylinders.   


In normal driving or just cruising, the turbos are spinning but not creating boost that is fed to the cylinders because not much power is being demanded.  That allows the 3.5 ecoboost to deliver very good mileage when power is not being used.  Press on the accelerator harder, however, and the system jumps into action delivering more air and fuel to the cylinders and the result is dramatic power.  This system is sort of like having your cake OR eating it....you can have good mileage or great performance but not necessarily both at the same time.  HIghway cruising with an MKS ecoboost will provide mid to high 20s MPG - about like the 3.7.  The performance difference, however, is startling if you choose to use it.


The ecoboost MKS is geared differently than the 3.7 AWD version.  The engine turns much slower at cruising speeds which allows for lower engine wear, less noise, and very relaxed cruising.  The horror stories that you might find on the Internet are primarily about early F150s that had an intercooler that was actually too efficient.   That issue has been corrected.  Any other complaints are very few and mostly anomalies.  You can google a problem for almost any car or any engine and find lot of "data" that indicates something terrible.   I suggest you put it in context with the number of vehicles actually produced.    What per-cent of owners have a problem?  Who will likely be more expressive...someone who is happy or someone who has a problem...no matter how minor?  Some of us tend to make a mountain out of a molehill.


While I don't like all of Ford's marketing, they have done a fabulous job with the ecoboost family of engines.  If I recall, over 60% of F150s use ecoboost and there are huge numbers on the road with millions of happy owners.  There are Taurus SHOs with well over 100,000 miles on them, some of which were tuned for more power and put on drag strips.  Many police departments are using ecoboost police interceptor vehicles.  The 3.5 ecoboost is a phenomenal success story and the next generation (currently in 2.7 liter size) will likely prove to be even better.

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#9267 Lock Warning

Posted by Waldo on 24 February 2015 - 11:11 AM

Leave the key in the car or don't fully close the driver's door.


This is a soon-to-be-regulated "safety" feature, there is no way to disable it.

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#8895 What do you think can be improved on the MKS?

Posted by lincwitsync on 16 November 2014 - 06:34 AM

This was an interesting thread. I do agree with many of the complaints; however, I am not picking this car to pieces. I bought my MKS because it offers great styling, amenities, and performance at a somewhat reasonable price. Is the MKS perfect? Nope. I don't expect perfection. You can truly find flaws in any vehicle on the road (INCLUDING LEXUS, MERCEDES, BMW, AUDI...even ROLLS ROYCE ).  I can name several design and quality issues in every one of those makes. And we can all argue that the MKS beats the competition in some way or another. The bottom line is that one car will not satisfy all car buyers. The common denominator is that we all found something we liked about this make and model. Lincoln will more than likely improve the MKS' shortcomings with the next iterations.


I'm grateful that Ford is holding on to its classic Luxury Brand. I wish Lincoln the best! I hope they increase market share here in North America and become a huge sensation in China.

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#8073 New Tire Recommendations

Posted by brucelinc on 03 March 2014 - 04:42 PM

According to Michelin's site, the MXM4 gives up some "comfort" to get better "handling" than the MXV4. It appears that the MXV4s are supposed to wear a bit better, too. Based on my priorities, I think I would prefer the MXV4s. Todd, if you would let your MKS forget it has twin turbos and a tune, you might get more miles out of your tires. :)
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#8062 New Tire Recommendations

Posted by Nickt15 on 18 February 2014 - 01:23 PM

So its been a little while since someone posted here so i thought I'd post some "fairly" new tires i found while in the market for a new set. Firstly, I have a 09 AWD MKS sitting on P245/45R20 and chet, these tires are expensive. My car still has the O.E set from Lincoln, Michelin Primacy MXV4. These pretty things are nice, but sit 3rd on my list.


The brands i'm looking at are:

  1. Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus (Grand Touring All-Season) $228/ea
  2. Continental ExtremeContact DW (Max Performance Summer) $192/ea
  3. Michelin Primacy MXV4 (Grand Touring All-Season) $255/ea
  4. Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 (Max Performance Summer) $155/ea 

Counting backwards let me highlight a few pros and cons for each brand.


      4. Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 - This brand was recommend to me from a friend who uses them on his car and has had good luck with them. There is a tiny lag in the steering response but i doubt anyone would notice it. It is harsh on rough roads due to them being pretty firm, but the deal breaker for me, the lose of traction on wet roads, this is due to its narrow peak. This tire is pretty noisy. Yet it does have the best steering response. Not a good tire for MKS, LS maybe as its lighter. 


      3.Michelin Primacy MXV4 - Does good on smoothing road conditions and least amount of tread noise and impact noise. One thing it lacks is the urgent steering response when compared to Continental and Pirelli, yet still handles nice to the drivers input. Good traction on dry and wet roads.


      2.Continental ExtremeContact DW - Best job softening rough road conditions and provides the least tread and impact noise. At a cost for a comfortable ride it comes with a softer handling where it comes off a little less responsive than Hankook. On a dry track it has great grip but seems to be a little less responsive on faster turns. It does great with traction on wet roads but due to the softer handling, it seems to hold back a little.


     1. Pirelli Cinturato P7 - P7 handles great being right behind Hankook V12. On the road its right behind Continental with smoothness on the road with less tread noise, but the impact noise is noticeable. This tire does handle a little under great when it comes to contact on wet roads and lacks good grip under hard braking. This is the ONLY tire that comes with LRR equipped.  


After all is said and done i'll most likely be picking up a set of the Pirelli P7's. I feel this tire is well round with smoothness, tread noise, comfort and the fact its LRR i'll save a little one gas. With a UTQG of 700 A A, this tire is one of highest rated monster around, this will most likely be the last tire i'd have to buy for my car. I would like to point out this is just my opinion and depending on the driver tires will vary. I myself is slow, never over 60MPH type of guy I feel the P7 fits my needs just right. If you're not worried about a particular feature, go with MXV4 its a good tire.


I really hope this helps those in the market for some new tires and are unsure of which route to go. Just keep in mind, MKS is luxury car, therefore, you want a luxury ride!!

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#7237 Replacing Blend Door Actuator (clicking in dash)

Posted by TSS1 on 02 May 2013 - 08:32 AM

There is another thread on this, but here is a link to instructions, with photos and part numbers that I posted on another forum for my 2010 MKS: 


http://www.ecoboosto...":"blend door"}

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#6739 Rear doors not sealing

Posted by brucelinc on 11 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

There are still 2 seals between the dirty area and the interior and this dirty area does clean easily so there is really no harm being done.  The MKS and Taurus do not have traditional rocker panels that the door bottoms tuck into.  The idea of the design was to make entry/exit easier.  However, the side effect is the potential for dust/dirt to hit the area in the picture.


I had the same issue (though not as bad as your picture shows) and took matters into my own hands with some 3/4 inch foam tape.  On the bottom of the rear door, there is a seal that stops at the back of the door.  I simply applied the foam tape in the area where the original seal stopped and continued it further back.  I did this "modification" during the first winter I had the car - 2010.  It has held up well, is unnoticeable and it solved the problem.

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#6270 Anyone lower their MKS?

Posted by j-deuce on 24 June 2012 - 01:56 AM

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#5208 Climate Control Noise

Posted by lewjr on 06 June 2011 - 07:34 PM

In the 26 months that I have had my 2009 Lincoln MKS, built October 2008, I have had the back-up camera replaced, all four door lock rods replaced, and decided to live with the noisy poorly positioned grooved steering column shroud piece. Now at 8700 miles the vehicle has developed a noise in the climate control at start-up.

When I start the vehicle and the climate control comes on there is a knocking or taping sound. This consists of 7-8 quick loud knocks lasting about 2 seconds coming from the passenger side IP. I know it is the climate control because when I start the vehicle with the climate control off there is no noise. As soon as I turn on the climate control I get the knocks. Since this just recently started it is primarily at start-up but I have heard the noise a couple of times while driving.

I am hopeful that someone else is aware of this issue before I go to the dealership and wait while they scratch their heads. Thank you.
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#11080 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost Owners

Posted by MKSMike on 06 June 2017 - 01:34 PM

2010 MKS AWD Ecoboost.. Ultimate package, red candy, cashmere interior, 20" 10-spoke cast-aluminum chrome rims, wood door trim, active park assist (very cool) 43,000 miles, just traded my 2010 MKZ in for it, have wanted an MKS since driving my father-in-law's 3.7 AWD back and forth from NY to FL 3 times, I loved driving it but the Ecoboost is incredible, so glad I bought this car, can't wait to get the 3 bar map sensor and Livernois tune!



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#11039 MKS ecoboost/ SHO ecoboost value difference

Posted by brucelinc on 14 May 2017 - 09:29 AM

I have sort of been playing around with the idea of picking up a used SHO or MKS just to mod and use for drag racing.   They are somewhat scarce in my area but I find the prices to be similar.  For some reason, most of the used MKSs I see have a lot more miles on them than the SHOs.  I would assume the the MKSs have been owned by older clientele and maybe have more longer trips.  I would also expect the MKSs to have been driven a bit more conservatively.  Only an unruly hooligan would mod or race an MKS.   :shift:



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#10952 MKS 3.7 Turbo?

Posted by TSS1 on 26 April 2017 - 11:35 AM

Congratulations on the purchase. Post some pictures. If you are impressed now, wait until you get the Livernois  tune. It's a whole different ballgame again. :)

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#10944 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost Owners

Posted by MKSecobeast on 22 April 2017 - 06:56 PM

2010 MKS AWD Ecoboost.. Just traded my 2010 MKS FWD 3.7 for it!  B)

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#10864 Rock panel cover

Posted by ShaneR on 15 February 2017 - 04:02 PM

I had the same thing happen to my car when Discount Tire replaced my tires.  They did no realize the Ecoboost appearance package rocker covers hung down lower.  So they raised up my car and broke a lot of the tabs.  They wrote me a check for the replacement of them but I pocketed it and just epoxied the tabs back on and reattached.  It took a little work but it worked. 

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#10746 Body Side Molding for MKS

Posted by rdbarshied on 12 November 2016 - 08:41 PM

To protect my doors I purchased a custom body side molding from http://stores.ebay./sportwing/comfor my new Lincoln MKS. I received it fast and the color was a perfect match to the car.  I applied it in about 15 minutes and it looks great. Just peeled the covering off the 3 m tape mounted on the back of the molding , lined it up and pushed it on. Very easy. The price for a custom molding was very low and the result is awesome. See the picture.

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#10739 Weird stutter when letting off the gas

Posted by djbanas@icloud.com on 05 November 2016 - 01:19 PM

I can't believe more people have not commented; however, I can assure you this is a normal condition as the PCM contains programming related to a fuel-saving feature called "deceleration fuel cut off". The 6F50 transmission is equipped such that when the PCM recognizes when you let off the gas on the MKS, the engine and transmission sort-of reconnect to then use SOME of the forward momentum of the vehicle to turn the flywheel (and therefore the engine) as opposed to allowing the wheels to turn freely, and using gas to idle the engine while coasting. This feature allows the car to use less gas; however, it can sometimes "feel" annoying because it's just like a downshift, but my opinion is that since the PCM has to measure so many inputs, it might not be totally focused on the fact that you have let off the gas, and sometimes it will feel like it has coupled, then decoupled the transmission, and then re-coupled again to the flywheel. The other feature of this fuel-cutoff procedure is that when you coast down a hill, the transmission will keep the car moving at roughly the same rate of speed as when you initially let off the gas (accelerator), and will even down-shift automatically to keep your car from "running away". I like that part of the feature, sometimes.


Personally, I would rather the car simply allow the vehicle to roll freely instead of using its forward velocity to help keep the engine turning. My 2002 Sable LS allowed for the engine to simply idle and the wheels to roll very freely. On the other hand, sometimes when I would release the gas pedal on my Sable, intending to slow the car down via coasting, the rolling resistance was so minimal that I would often need the use of my brakes to reduce speed because coasting was not giving me speed decrements that I needed while driving in heavier traffic - so in a way, I like this feature on my MKS; however, the trailering effect didn't start happening until the car got older and maybe some parts, features, sensors, and just the age of the car has made the feature more intrusive or pronounced than when it was new. :/


My thought is that it's a good idea to just "disconnect the battery" 2x per year, let the car relearn all the sensory inputs (some which work together to affect the accuracy, the feel, and proper level of the "fuel deceleration cut off" procedures). I think sometimes these thing just get "out of sync", nothing more - nothing less.. Plus, hey - tires age, transmission clutch plates age, brake linings age - not that brakes are used in this case, but everything basically ages, including us!

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#10716 12's in the 1/4 mile

Posted by lincwitsync on 28 October 2016 - 09:34 AM

I am impressed with the numbers, but I couldn't help but comment on the article link that you attached. Seems like neither Motor Trend nor C/D will not give Lincoln a break no matter what. They made similar negative statements about MKZ and its tires when they tested the 2013 model. I mean this time Lincoln brought them a refresh and a newly potent powertrain with numbers to back it up, and they still tried to pick it to pieces. How about commending them for a nice powertrain and a handsome refresh. What these publications need to realize is that MKZ was never intended to be a sports car!  It's not a Lamborghini nor a BMW. It's an entry level American luxury car with a sporting flair. Take it for what it is. Classify it as the Lincoln that it is! It's not Cadillac chasing after BMW... SMH

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#10239 Going MKS Shopping

Posted by Quasar on 02 February 2016 - 06:37 AM

Thank you!!

I pulled the trigger yesterday, now the proud owner of a 41k mile 2011 AWD MKS, beautiful car,trying to figure out all its little details.
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